With apologies to all the Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson fans out there, there are only four Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks worthy of consideration as the best still playing: Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Kurt Warner. However, I also have to exclude Warner for the simple reason he has only started 78 games in his career, and he is clearly nearing the end, whereas Brady and Manning have both started over 100 games and will undoubtedly play for many more years. (Of course, Favre is the all-time champ with 246 games started.)
While there are certainly young quarterbacks who may yet win a Super Bowl, they have not played long enough to be rated with these three quarterbacks.
I will use the same criteria as I used in my "all-time best" post to rate these three quarterbacks, with a look at percentages since the three have clearly played careers of different lengths. The stats are taken from their career statistics through last weekend:
GAME MANAGEMENT
The first quality all rookie quarterbacks must learn is game management. By this I mean the ability to avoid interceptions and fumbles.
To rate this ability, I will use the interception percentage:
1. Tom Brady: 2.4%The key to Brady's success in this category is that he knows how to throw it away instead of making risky throws. Favre may be fun to watch, but he also throws where he shouldn't way too often.
2. Peyton Manning: 2.9%
3. Brett Favre: 3.3%
TOUCHDOWNS
In order to throw a lot of touchdowns, you have to be able to throw the ball in the red zone. You won't make a career out of only lobbing 70 yard bombs. You also have to be able to
toss the little two yard pass to the tackle eligible in the end zone.
A simple look at touchdowns per pass attempt for the three quarterbacks:
1. Peyton Manning: 291/5205= 0.056I would consider this category a wash. The statistical difference between these three is insignificant. They can all throw touchdowns quite well, and an easy argument can be made that the differences are due to the quality of teams they have played on over the years. In addition, when you consider Favre has played twice as long as the other two, and an argument can be made that Brady and Manning's touchdown percentages may drop over the remainder of their careers.
2. Tom Brady: 180/3363= 0.054
3. Brett Favre: 430/8577= 0.050
RELEASE
A quick release is not necessary to be a great quarterback, but it seems the great ones tend to have quicker releases than most quarterbacks.
The quickest release of all-time belonged to Dan Marino. As a pure pocket passer, it is easy to see how fast he got rid of the ball: In 8,358 pass attempts, he fumbled the ball only 57 times, for a 0.68% rating.
While it is tougher to rate scrambling quarterbacks using this statistic, none of the three quarterbacks we are looking at would be considered a significant scrambler.
Here is how they rate:
1. Peyton Manning: 49/5205= 0.94%Even though Manning is no Marino, he still gets the ball away faster than anyone today.
2. Brett Favre: 144/8577= 1.68%
3. Tom Brady: 63/3363= 1.87%
ARM STRENGTH/AVERAGE GAIN
By itself, arm strength is nice, but it won't win games.
Early in his career, Doug Williams had the strongest arm I have ever seen. Unfortunately, when he threw little passes into the flat, the ball would bounce off the receiver because it was uncatchable.
For arm strength to be effective, it has to be combined with touch on shorter passes.
In this category, average gain per pass attempted tells us the quarterback is using his arm strength to its ultimate advantage:
1. Peyton Manning: 7.7Manning would not rate among the best of all-time in this category, but he is clearly better at getting the most out of his arm strength of these three quarterbacks.
2. Tom Brady: 7.2
3. Brett Favre: 7.0
ACCURACY
A strong arm needs accuracy to be effective. This is where completion percentage is important, and where Manning rates a slight edge:
CHAMPIONSHIPS1. Peyton Manning: 64.0%
2. Tom Brady: 62.9%
3. Brett Favre: 61.3%
In a team sport, the championship stands out as the ultimate test of how much a quarterback is helping his team. In Super Bowl victories, this is where Tom Brady stands out from the crowd:
1. Tom Brady: 3RUSHING
2t. Peyton Manning: 1
2t. Brett Favre: 1
None of these three quarterbacks is a great scrambler, like a Mike Vick or a Randall Cunningham. With rushing averages ranging from 1.9 (Brady) to 3.3 (Favre), they won't be winning games by running for 70 yard touchdowns.
Where we can make a comparison is in rushing touchdowns/rushing attempts:
1. Peyton Manning: 16/279= 5.7%Manning doesn't run often, but he does make it count more often than the other two. That is good running judgement.
2. Brett Favre: 13/543= 2.39%
3. Tom Brady: 5/256= 2.0%
For the record, Manning's percentage is even better than LaDainian Tomlinson's percentage (5.7% vs. 4.9%).
WHO IS THE BEST QUARTERBACK PLAYING?
If we throw out the touchdowns as a consideration (for the reason stated earlier), then total their rankings (with lowest total being better), here is how they rank:
1. Peyton Manning: 8Is this a fair comparison? Absolutely not, when you consider that Manning has had the luxury of playing with an elite receiver (Marvin Harrison) for his entire career. Brady has only had an elite receiver this year (Randy Moss), and it can be argued that Favre has NEVER played with an elite receiver.
2. Tom Brady: 12
3. Brett Favre: 15
To make a fair comparison, let's start with Brady's career numbers prior to this season, against Favre's overall numbers (using the same criteria from above):
Tom Brady: 2.5% interception pct., 4.8% td pct., 1.93% fumble pct., 7.0 yds./attempt, 61.9% completed, 3 championships, 1.26% rush td's/attemptsBrady and Favre are virtually identical, with each of them only rating a significant edge in two categories.
Brett Favre: 3.3% interception pct., 5.0% td pct., 1.68% fumble pct., 7.0 yds./attempt, 61.3% completed, 1 championship, 2.39% rush td's/attempts
Assuming Brady and Favre are comparable, how do we draw a fair comparison to Manning? The best way might be to take Brady's stats from this year, prorate them to a full season, and then compare them to Manning's best season (2004):
Tom Brady: 1.3% interception pct., 11.0% td pct., 1.34% fumble pct., 9.0 yds./attempt, 73.2% completed, 11.8% rush td's/attemptBrady rates a slight edge in four categories. But with fewer games completed in this sample, it is hard to call this definitive. However, IF Brady finishes this season with approximately the same stats, then we can conclude that Brady AND Favre (since Favre is comparable to Brady) are better quarterbacks than Manning. But that has yet to be determined.
Peyton Manning: 2.0% interception pct., 9.9% td pct., 1.01% fumble pct., 9.2 yds./attempt, 67.6% completed, 0% rush td's/attempt
Since the statistics don't show us a truly objective "best quarterback" among these three quarterbacks, then it comes down to a subjective choice. Assuming Brady continues at his current pace, and I think he will, then it comes down to a choice between Favre and Brady. If you look at the quality of receivers that both of them have had over the years, in my opinion Favre has had better (even if they were not elite) receivers overall, yet has only managed comparable numbers to years when Brady's best receivers were Troy Brown or Deion Branch. Therefore, Tom Brady would be the best quarterback playing now, depending on how he finishes this year.
3 comments:
Brett Favre may not be the best, but he's the most exciting to watch.
He seems to actually have fun out there and that's something special.
Only time will tell if Tom Brady is as great as Brett Favre, in terms of shear contribution to his team and personal greatness. Favre has almost singlehandedly dragged his teammates through the muck since I was in junior high. It's always "The Packers are pretty dangerous since Brett can usually pull something out." It's a little like arguing that the American military waged the most amazing and valiant campaign ever in their defeat of the Iraqi army in the first gulf war. It just ain't a fair comparison when you have MA-A1's and stealth bombers and a trillion dollar budget to waste and they have twenty year old creaking Soviet garbage that they haven't been able to get parts for in ten years.
Brady has firepower beyond anything Favre's ever even seen. It's like Favre has a top of the line dartgun (his arm) but Brady has a flamethrowing uzi with the optional buzz saw attachment (the army of darkness we call the Patriots).
Of course Brady's numbers are going to tear apart anything anyone's every seen before. But to me, it's almost expected. Perhaps an added measure of accuracy could be to somehow factor in the goodness of the teams on which the QB played. That's tricky, since the numbers are intertwined, but maybe there could be a way to look at non-passing offense or maybe the number of pro-bowlers on offense that aren't the QB? You could give triple minus points to an offensive non-QB MVP. Which leads to me wonder why you didn't consider MVP awards for the QB's in question! You can't just look at stats unless you want to argue about the overall greatness of a whole team. If you're looking at a particular player's greatness, then it must be considered in context of that players available tools.
BL,
Is Favre really the most exciting to watch? Personally, I would rate Mike Vick ahead of Favre. I'd even rate Vince Young ahead of him. Running quarterbacks are far more exciting to me. Mind you, I wouldn't want one starting for me. ;)
Anonymous,
I wouldn't even consider MVP awards, since they are basically popularity contests.
As for surrounding talent, Brady has had some mediocre receivers for most of his career, yet still has managed to win most of his games. When the quality of Favre's receivers goes down, so do the Packers.
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